The format dd.mm.yyyy using dots is the Hebrew format. U.S. Army Europe and Africa trains and leads the U.S. Army Forces in the European and African theater in support of U.S. European Command, U.S. African Command and the Department of the Army. True, American historians attempting to appeal to the masses may revert to April 12, 2012, but those writing for scholarly journals will not. In other words a presentation that will ensure immediate comprehension? There is much more to be said but I’m trying to concentrate on the question! I frequently use up so much of my attention on the month-day/day-month puzzle that I have none left for writing the correct year. View the profiles of people named Euro Date. I’ve just read this extraordinarily rude and ill-mannered reply. However, my personal style is to use decimals rather than slashes to separate the year, the month, and the day. In October 2020 compared with September 2020, seasonally adjusted production in the construction sector increased by 0.5% in the euro area and by 0.9% in the EU, according to first estimates from Eurostat, the statistical office of the European … I have seen “proper” Canadian colleagues use color and colour in the same sentence! This second update of the original document integrates the experience of maintaining safe and sufficient supply of substances of human origin (SoHO) gained in the course of the COVID-19 pandemic and through recent scientific developments in understanding the evolution of the disease. Also: the 12 April 2012 format is routinely used by American genealogists when they write; I know because my sister happens to be one. We SAY month-day (and if need be -year), thus we write mm-dd-yy or mm/dd/yy. Skip navigation Sign in. Obama got the year wrong! Doc would stand there and be trying to convert in their head to inches! ( Log Out /  And I am the only one in our family whose birthdate can be misconstrued – the others are lucky enough to be past 12 in the month. But I think that may be based on the precedent of saying “September 11th” rather than “11th September”. yep or longhand as 25 June, 2016, organized from smallest unit to largest unit. Official forms generally tend towards DMY. ISO is the better way. No, that is entirely illogical. Thus, as long as the sequence is based on the relative values, be it date/month/year or year/month/date, it’s cool. European Commission - Energy Policy Prix à la consommation des produits pétroliers droits et taxes compris Consumer prices of petroleum products inclusive of duties and taxes Verbraucherpreise für Mineralölerzeugnisse einschließlich Abgaben und Steuern Euro-super 95 (I) Gas oil automobile Automotive gas oil … What percentage of the English population can tell you how much they weigh in kilograms? Today, the Ryder Cup is golf’s pre-eminent event, biennially bringing together 12-member teams from the U.S. and Europe for glory and pride on a three-day worldwide stage. And Europe Blog is slightly incorrect, having forgotten about Japan, which would write today’s date as 2015/09/08 (2015, September 08). Canada uses day/month/year. so 25jun16. The bank doesn’t seem to care as long as it’s got my signature 😉. Regardless of the fact, that AM/PM is also not my case (24-hour clock rocks) – if it’s 2:35:12 on your watch you don’t write 35:12, 2! of Califor…. Get the latest European news from BBC News in Europe: headlines, features and analysis from BBC correspondents across the European Union, EU, and the rest of Europe. Sorry but a few countries write in neither month-day-year nor day-month-year. Dates and now side of the road? (BTW my use of suspension points in e-writing derives from Whitman’s 1855 preface. Month is often spelled out to avoid confusion. – September the 11th. Con 10 días te alcanza para tres ciudades como máximo, tal vez 2 días en Madrid y el resto en París y Londres,al menos así visitarías tres ciudades maravillosas y relativamente cercanas patient would say how big is that and dr would point to the reference. Although of course a terrible event, it was quite funny that our UK media were miraculously saved from having to work out whether to follow the “9/11″ precedent when the London Underground was bombed in July 2005….. because the date – universally used since to signify the bombings – was in fact 7/7. dated 4th July 1776”, The site explains the notation this way: “According to the National Archives, ‘While no one knows for certain who wrote it, it is known that early in its life, the large parchment document was rolled up for storage. Every time I did I had to fill in a Green Card. Don’t even get me started on the illogic of writing writing a comma to between a whole number and a decimal (or a period/full stop between thousands). I’ve had a love/hate affair with this since my early twenties when I spent three years in France. Yes, the Fourth of July is celebrates 2 days after Congress voted in favour of Independence from Great Britain. The most significant digits come first, not last! ( Log Out /  I would have to think hard to know what those were was in archaic measures but then I was taught in metric from when I was in my early teens. National current full format: "Ngày [d]d, tháng [m]m, năm yyyy" or ngày [d]d, tháng (month in textform), năm yyyy; short format: [d]d/m[m]/yyyy or [d]d-[m]m-yyyy; This page was last edited on 17 December 2020, at 02:34. Europe Blog notes, “The only countries that do not share the European date format in fact are the US, Philippines, Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia, Canada and Belize.” As for the ISO format, it is the standard format in large parts of Asia and in parts of Africa, but it is also used as the standard date format in Scandinavia. *DMY => DD.MM.YY (yy)yy or d. mmmm yyyy (mmmm may be substituted by Roman numerals), The format dd.mm.yyyy using dots (which denote, Short format: dd/mm/yyyy (Day first, month and year in left-to-right writing direction) in French and Fulah. Everything ends up in a computer eventually! No other date format presents the files in such a logical order. ( Log Out /  BTW – the Japanese use yyyy-mm-dd, the only non-technical use I’ve seen. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. How do you write numbers? 17.12.2020 Closure of EPO extended until 10 January 2021 17.12.2020 EPO closure period and financial year-end closing 2020 16.12.2020 Join Facebook to connect with Euro Date and others you may know. And I wondered too if horses prefer to pass each other right to right side, thus on left side of road…in which case if wagons rode that way (for eons) why not cars? Over time, I have come to favour the IBM date format standards used on the iSeries computers where the format code specifies both the order of fields and the delimiter: … December 25th (12/25); New Year’s Day? You can also change the month and date order if you mentioned the month in words. If you wrote time like you want Americans to write the date, it would ss:mm:hh rather than the standard hh:mm:ss. Il s’agit de (par ordre d'entrée et par ordre alphabétique) : Allemagne, Belgique, France, Italie, Luxembourg, Pays-Bas, Danemark, Irlande, Royaume-Uni, Grèce. (Call me picky, but hardly a day passes that somebody doesn’t send me an unprovable tall tale about this guy, in a claim that’s more often than not debunked in Snopes. Remember, this is 2016. Isn’t the main issue here the NUMERIC presentation? News The CPG Lifetime Achievement Award 2020 recognises marvellous Montgomerie. 16/12/2020 Production in construction up by 0.5% in euro area and by 0.9% in EU. what about the system which uses Roman numerals for the month? My theory is that Americans use the same format as us but have 31 months, interleaved in a peculiar way. The number of commas in an Indian balance sheet can drive you mad! Okay, WordPress screwed me again. Before posting and after some research to answer my own question, I deleted my second paragraph, but WordPress posted it anyway. I will grant you though that the American style is only 1/2 logical. The euro going from the smaller fraction to the larger (day, month, year) and the ISO formatted inversely (year, month, day) It makes it easier to sort and organize records. I have seen this on many paintings/drawings in museums, and here’s a passage from the Roman numeral entry in wikipedia, “In Central Europe, Italy, Russia, and in Bulgarian, Croatian, Portuguese, Romanian, and Serbian languages, mixed Roman and Arabic numerals are used to record dates (usually on tombstones, but also elsewhere, such as in formal letters and official documents). The travel industry is the same way everything is day first then month then year. Almost all government documents need to be filled up in the DD-MM-YYYY format. 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Writers have traditionally written abbreviated dates according to their local custom, creating all-numeric equivalents to dates … The logic shifts (and logically so) depending on what is most relevant in terms of our daily work. Coronavirus disease (COVID-19), which is caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), was first identified in December 2019 in Wuhan, China, and has since spread rapidly, evolving into a full-blown pandemic. VING INSURANCE BROKERS LTD DAN Building, Level 2-3, Sir Ugo Mifsud st, Ta' Xbiex, Malta. We’re talking about a language in which the vowels of the virtually identical words dough, slough, and tough are all pronounced differently. Also, what is the source of the illustration? Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Here the organisation is closer to the US dating but with the year placed at the start, for example ‘2010/12/20’.”). (yy)yy or sometimes d. month (yy)yy). In Britain we tend to say the 25th of December. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. In the UK the emergency telephone number is 999 or so I thought. By the leftmost(first) character of course! As John Adams wrote “The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I came upon this topic after reading a covid-19 research paper referencing 07/02/2020 ….a future date according to my USA way of reading and writing dates. Seems to me I discovered recently it’s a totally different 3-digit number in the UK. Should ever be forgot. However, I bet all the countries he once ruled now use the Euro numeric. The date order on the card was always Day, Month, Year. One was done in Europe, and the other is from U.S. military people (who, unlike typical Americans, use Euro-style dates and 24-hour time). Why? As a logician, I contend that the information presented is insufficient to prove that Barack Obama did not visit on 24 MAY 2008, as well as in 2011. Checks? “Meet Me in St. Louis” in “The Family Stone”: a case of emotional larceny. If they ping you in February for a March renewal you might suspect the date in the mail doesn’t indicate November. Because this is 2016 and everything is computerized now. Oracle Databases also default to 12-APR-2012, which is kinda interesting for an American country. On the other hand, Germany also blessed the USA with the hamburger so why not? I finally made charts for the consultation rooms to show how big 3cm, 5cm, 7cm, 9cm so doctor would say you have a 2cm mole on your back that we need to take off today. I NEVER write 04/05/15 for May 4th! They were all taught to date their school work dd/mm/yyyy. Russia has been the worst affected country in Europe with 2,653,928 confirmed cases, followed by France with 2,376,852 cases. So what? OK, I’m from Europe, so I’m a little bit prejudiced. Champions League Men Top seeds justified their status and reached semi finals. I think the European form is elegant, and I don’t get any pleasure out of being in an exclusive club with Belize. 911 in North America! France did not. It’s a not true about Belize though, it’s a British colony and write their date like the brits do. standard that the UK has now also adopted, although 999 still works. Besides… so much stuff is gets digitized when the original writer never intended it. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Stones, gallons and yards will surely follow. numeric dates and verbal constructs: But also remember that, thanks to India and other former colonies, as many people drive on the left as well as on the right. en . If 25% of the world population EXCLUSIVELY uses year/month/day, which happens to be the ISO standard, then concluding “most of the rest of the world” is a bit misleading. Europe Reports Record-High 700,000 COVID-19 Cases Last Week, WHO Says : Coronavirus Updates Europe's cases surged by 36% compared with the prior week. This is probably counterintuitive to many Westerners, yet no one has ever accused the English language of being intuitive or easy to follow. Central European Time (CET) is 1 hour ahead of Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). It struck me (and my mirror) at the same time that we needed better road rules. And please note (the scientific one above) a period or full stop is NOT a decimal point. But who the hell came with MM/DD/YYYY? Simplest solution would be for us all to stick with the versions that involve logical progresssions, ie day month year or year month day. UEFA.com is the official site of UEFA, the Union of European Football Associations, and the governing body of football in Europe. Search. We’re not weirdos too. They got rid of shilling, fathoms and bushels already. True?). I still think cave-in of CTV to over the border format was NG. Champions League Men. White and Strunk in Elements of Style urge use of the non-comma format for composition. Applying logic in encoding data nurtures critical intelligence. Articles connexes. Mainland China invariably writes 2016/01/06 since the past 60 years. Article. Remember, remember the fifth of November, To me, it sounds like you’re saying that this September is one of the 11ths or the 11th instance of a September (or 9 generations after September, Jr.). But entirely logical once you get used to it. Pingback: Good On Us | Not One-Off Britishisms. To me, the beauty of the European method is its progression of diminishing specificity with each increment of time: from day to month to year. Have you also been petitioning Her Majesty’s government for the creation of a British Academy to do away with this kind of “absolutely senseless” spelling? Misunderstandings arise only when travelers fail to conform to local custom and jingoists maintain that “our way is the only logical way.” We could have this same conversation about grammar, spelling, politics, and cooking. (Using dots (which denote ordinal numbering) as in d.m. In Continental Europe, driving on the right is associated with France and Napoleon Bonaparte. I do of course know it’s the emergency phone no in the US, whereas we use 999. I use the format …eg for today…09 IV 2012. Faceplam, what a dumkopf! ), If it’s so logical to PROceed from the smallest to the largest unit, why not also say and write the time in seconds/minutes/hours? The only downside would be that blog posts such as this couldn’t be written and enjoyed. The Modern Language Association (MLA) format for academic writing in the humanities specifies that dates be given as day month year; today would be 20 September 2014. Get it right! UEFA.com is the official site of UEFA, the Union of European Football Associations, and the governing body of football in Europe. I won’t comment on the Napoleonic origin. I look back to my primary school teacher’s dictum (I am 75 yrs now- so no one can thumb their nose at my teacher) was dd/mm/yy. realme is an emerging mobile phone brand which is committed to offering mobile phones with powerful performance, stylish design and sincere services. And oh yeah: where *did* we get our ridiculously complicated imperial measurement system? (yy)yy) in Russian, LST ISO 8601:1997 (obsolete) LST ISO 8601:2006 (current), National standard format is yyyy-mm-dd (with leading zeroes) and yyyy. See full time zone map “, Maybe it’s because the members of Congress on 4th July 1776 were British at the time? For example… if you keep a folder full of family photos.. prefix them with the date. Monday Day, Year is another one that drove me nutz because the only was to sort data was to import it and then separate the date elements, move them to a hierarchal order Year Month day or day month year. In my opinion, the U.K./European way looks cooler than the U.S. style; it also avoids having to use commas and decide whether to write 9 or 9th. European Union website - EUROPA is the official EU website that provides access to information published by all EU institutions, agencies and bodies. Like seeing the temp was 20c and putting on a heavy sweater and coat thinking it would be cold. To get the latest major update of Windows 10, see Get the Windows 10 May 2020 Update. We had a unified system of weights, measurement and distance. Just the other day I was driving towards a knight who got pissy, veered to my right and lopped off my side mirror. I’ve done it both ways, but by preference use the day/month/year format when there is no risk of confusion; i.e., my personal journal. *EUR => DD.MM.CCYY “Are you going to Dave’s party on July the 8th?” Taxes de canvi històriques de l'Euro en comparació amb divises d'Amèrica del Nord i del Sud a dia 10 de gener de 2020 (10/1/2020) Taxes de canvi històriques de l'Euro en comparació amb divises d'Europa a dia 11 de març de 2020 (11/3/2020) Cast your … Sorry. Unless of course they’re ambidextrous and routinely commute with a .44 Magnum in the glove compartment? I suspect it’s the influence of the Department of Defense. Just realised I read sword hand origin HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Europe Day held on 9 May every year celebrates peace and unity in Europe. … January 1st; ask someone his birthday and he’ll say month-day-year. Hence, when quoting dates, it is quite logical to use DD:MM:YYYY and when referring to time within the 24 hour period, it is quite logical to use HH:MM:SS. European Data Protection Board. I used to fly to America a lot. Consider, for example, reports of three events that occur on January 20, April 15, and December 1 of 2012 (or any other year). During the French Revolution, a decree of 1792 created a uniform traffic law, requiring traffic to keep to the “common” right. However 112 also works in the UK (though most Brits don’t know that), because it’s the standard EU-wide emergency number. In the early 19th century, those countries occupied by or allied to Napoleon – the Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, Poland, Spain – adopted right-hand traffic. If you write YYYY-MM-DD, that’s ok and ISO standard… So, it is likely that the notation was added simply as a label.'”. Gunpowder treason and plot. I write the full name of each month (first) then the day and year, which has been working just fine my entire life. Anyone who must sort a large number of files in chronological order quickly becomes a fan of the ISO 8601 standard (YYYYMMDD). ” In England, there is but one road to heaven. Change ). As for driving on which side of the road, remember, please blame Napoleon! bollocks… Fred Flintstone logic! The usual EU compromise – standardisation across the EU, will supporting local history and cultures. Dans les Europes - jour 10. Promotion d’opportunités de formation pour les producteurs et travailleurs pour permettre un développement continu des … The European, Asian, and American date orders are all internally consistent and therefore both equally logical and equally arbitrary. I often deal with computer dates so I also write yyyy-mm-dd … 2014-05-04. Just be forward thinking by writing the date the correct way in the first place! I grew up with military parents so the European format is what I’ve used mostly in my life except in school where teachers would give me a hard time. Took a bit but you learn by error. 'Ginger,' 'Bits,' 'Whinge,' and other U.K. expressions that have got popular in the U.S. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Long date with weekday: onsdag(,) den 21. december 1994. DAN EUROPE FOUNDATION. I made it easier to explain and pt to understand. Coronavirus disease (COVID-19), which is caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), was first identified in December 2019 in Wuhan, China, and has since spread rapidly, evolving into a full-blown pandemic. As a mathematician, I presonally prefer to write dates like other numbers, i.e., using the ISO ordering cited. I weight 82kg and I am 1.78m tall. When is Christmas? In Chinese, this pattern is extended further such that 1:30 pm is read as afternoon, one-thirty. Elected in sense of choosing, which they did do knowingly but I’m sure with no thought of date formats. The doctor recently asked me how much I weighed. Putting the most significant digits on the left means that everything will sort correctly. And now let’s discuss metric vs imperial and why the Brits drive on the wrong side of the road…. dd/mm/yyyy is also in common use. (I learned that one quick!) Obvious: two horsemen approach on a road, equally suspicious of each other. Pingback: 24-Hour Clock | Not One-Off Britishisms. Makes perfect sense too. got them to use 6 april 2015. since it was a logical format and when it was imported to systems could be easily manipulated. There was even a letter this week to our local rag bemoaning the lack of anything formal…which there is and I believe its the ISO standard yyyy-mm-dd. Try the Indian numerical system. DMY and MDY are used interchangeably. Principe 8 : Développement des compétences. …I also prefer comma-free Brit correspondence style. Interesting stuff about Napoleon and unification and I’m sure there was a time when some Canadian provinces drove on the left. The problem is knowing which is which…uh oh. To be prudent, I always write dates dd mmm yyyy (eg 27 Oct 2012) to make sure there’s no confusion. In America, we do not ever properly say “July 4th, 2017.” The correct usage in our system is “July 4, 2017.” The “th” is reserved for adjectival treatment: “The 4th of July.”. How can some NOOB contributors be so dumb? The fraction form. I often get the year of my birth wrong, writing the current year by mistake. AND be sure that the commas are in if you wrote the month in letters failing which your knuckles will have an appointment with the teacher’s ruler. My intuition would put the number at 3/4 *at least.*. (yyyy.dd.mm) in Kazakh and (dd.mm. today is 20 IV ’12. Were they full of left-handed knights? I’m afraid I do find the Americans’ insistence on writing dates “the other way round” from the rest of the English-speaking world a bit irritating. And Ragged Clown, please do remember that the old Imperial system really forced you to think. In the United Kingdom and, in fact, most of the rest of the world, today’s date would be indicated 9 April 2012 or 9/4/12. I’m so paranoid about forgetting to renew the couple of domain names I care about that I’ve authorized my provider to bill my credit card automatically when they’re due to renew. Website updates. My family were all born in the UK, but my children were largely schooled in BC. Also, I’ve noticed that when spoken, oftentimes news presenters will say a date in US format when referring to iconic date. I now write the month in English to avoid confusion. *ISO => CCYY-MM-DD ISO dates yyyy-mm-dd can be used for "technical" purposes. – November the 5th (Guy Fawkes Day) Personally, I love it. No one has ever had any problem with that, and to the best of my knowledge computers understand it just fine! So please edit the post. At a speech in Paris in 1950, Robert Schuman, the then French foreign minister, set out his idea for a new form of political cooperation in Europe, which would make war between Europe's … While this clarification calms down my inclination to conspiracy theory I still see risks in research using the dd/mm/year when it comes to data. European Data Protection Board - Skip to main content. BTW: I would guess far more than “over 1/2” of the US can’t tell if a Celsius temperature is hot or cold. I’ll gladly proclaim my ignorance about Napoleon’s influence on which side of the road to drive. By the way, I meant to add that measurement and accounting systems can be very different. Others write 2016, June 25 or 2016.06.25 either of which is substantially easier to organize a group of records because everything is in order. I believe it was from the same folks who thought it was a much better idea to drive on the left. In the U.S., it would be April 9 (or 9th), 2012, or 4/9/12. When I write a check, that is how I place the date. Article. Americans understand other Americans, Brits understand other Brits, Nerds and mathematicians understand other nerds and mathematicians. 10.12.2020 Innovation in smart connected objects accelerating fast worldwide, new patent data shows RSS: news. Designed to increase data privacy for EU citizens, the regulation levies steep fines on organizations that don’t follow the law. Any thoughts? Over 1/2 of the US can’t tell if a Celsius temperature is hot or cold. Portal for open access research theses. Hey… I live in the US and I don’t understand why people don’t use the metric system. Can you imagine how stupid you feel having to pause and think of your birthdate? If you ask a Brit, the will tell you that the emergency number in the UK 999, and they’d be right. For my checks, I write, as an example, 10 April 2012. Please explain, Historyfanatic! Member Associations ETTU Executive Board meeting on Saturday. Days and Hours are more critical than Years and Seconds. In the UK, anyone who reaches 100 years old gets a telegram from the queen. XBX 1431 Thanks for the check…. Gregorian dates follow the same rules but tend to be written in. When asked for my DofB, I say 23rd of the 5th, ’64. I assumed (and I’m sure most people in Europe did as well) that “9/11” was purely a reference to the date? I’ve seen yyyyy-mm-dd used in in South Africa – the stamps in my passport were in that format. You will know better than I do, but I think also, historically, there was some overlap between the US and European formats.